Comments on: Yet Another Christmas Controversy http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443 With Apologies To Ray Bradbury! Sat, 04 Sep 2010 09:52:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Linda Toz http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443&cpage=1#comment-1506 Linda Toz Fri, 30 Dec 2005 06:12:27 +0000 http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443#comment-1506 THE CONTROVERSY ASTOUNDS ME. CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE A CHRISTMAS WITHOUT WORSHIP. IT WAS THE REASON THAT i PREPARED FOR THE SEASON - "JESUS WAS THE RESAON." THE CONTROVERSY ASTOUNDS ME.
CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE A CHRISTMAS WITHOUT WORSHIP. IT WAS THE REASON THAT i PREPARED FOR THE SEASON – “JESUS WAS THE RESAON.”

]]> By: Vanessa Davis http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443&cpage=1#comment-1498 Vanessa Davis Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:13:00 +0000 http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443#comment-1498 Our church in Syracuse, NY has been labeled a megachurch by the local media when active membership passed the 2,000 mark. We, too, did not have a service on Christmas day: our Friday beliver's meeting was moved up to Wednesday the 21st; and instead of one service on Friday the 23rd, we had two that evening. This year, we were given a devotional to help guide us in our worship AT HOME! It was AWESOME. My husband and I celebrated the birth of our Lord and Savior, and shared communion in our home. I disgree with the idea that worshipping w/ one's family as another "me-ism." To worship Christ in one's own home w/ his/her family and friends made our worship more intimate and sincere. There were probabably some households that didn't take time to worship, for sure. But that's not my business--I've got my own walk to deal with. The idea that we can only worship at church is very legalistic. Can't I be a Christian outside of church? I'm in services twice a week, and serve every other Friday in the children's ministry and I am usually involved in a prayer group or class. My husband serves in the youth ministry 3 days/week, is in the regular service on Sunday, and serves in the duplication dept @ least once a month. So we're basically in church in some capacity of worship and learning 4 days/ week. Every week. I love my church, my pastors, and my brothers and sisters in the Lord; but to say having to be at church 4xweek (and work full time in the secular world) IS NOT stressful would be lying. When I heard that we would not be having service on Christmas day, I was saddened for a moment--I thought what is the meaning of it all? But then pastor told the congregation that we were worshipping in our homes and that he was supplying a devotional (he and his staff wrote it) as a guide to worship Christ's birth, I rejoiced at this opportunity. It was a breath of fresh air. Joe Secular misconstrues a lot about churches, Christianity, the Bible and Christ, Himself. The apostle Paul wrote that the natural man cannot perceive spiritual things. I don't think Chistians need to put on an act for Joe Secular; he doesn't get it anyway. Sincerely Vanessa Davis Our church in Syracuse, NY has been labeled a megachurch by
the local media when active membership passed the 2,000
mark. We, too, did not have a service on Christmas day:
our Friday beliver’s meeting was moved up to Wednesday the
21st; and instead of one service on Friday the 23rd, we had
two that evening. This year, we were given a devotional
to help guide us in our worship AT HOME! It was AWESOME.
My husband and I celebrated the birth of our Lord and
Savior, and shared communion in our home. I disgree with
the idea that worshipping w/ one’s family as another
“me-ism.” To worship Christ in one’s own home w/ his/her
family and friends made our worship more intimate and
sincere. There were probabably some households that
didn’t take time to worship, for sure. But that’s not my
business–I’ve got my own walk to deal with. The idea
that we can only worship at church is very legalistic.

Can’t I be a Christian outside of church? I’m in services
twice a week, and serve every other Friday in the children’s
ministry and I am usually involved in a prayer group or
class. My husband serves in the youth ministry 3 days/week,
is in the regular service on Sunday, and serves in the
duplication dept @ least once a month. So we’re basically
in church in some capacity of worship and learning 4 days/
week. Every week. I love my church, my pastors, and my
brothers and sisters in the Lord; but to say having to be
at church 4xweek (and work full time in the secular world)
IS NOT stressful would be lying.

When I heard that we would not be having service on
Christmas day, I was saddened for a moment–I thought
what is the meaning of it all? But then pastor told the
congregation that we were worshipping in our homes and
that he was supplying a devotional (he and his staff
wrote it) as a guide to worship Christ’s birth, I rejoiced
at this opportunity. It was a breath of fresh air.

Joe Secular misconstrues a lot about churches, Christianity,
the Bible and Christ, Himself. The apostle Paul wrote that
the natural man cannot perceive spiritual things. I don’t
think Chistians need to put on an act for Joe Secular; he
doesn’t get it anyway.

Sincerely
Vanessa Davis

]]> By: louie http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443&cpage=1#comment-1474 louie Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:26:07 +0000 http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443#comment-1474 I didn't critize whatever it is that you do believe, I simply stated a fact that being older does not necessarily make you correct or true. So tell me, what's worse, taking cheap shots at someone, not explaining what you do believe, or dodging legitimate points when they are made? I didn’t critize whatever it is that you do believe, I simply stated a fact that being older does not necessarily make you correct or true.

So tell me, what’s worse, taking cheap shots at someone, not explaining what you do believe, or dodging legitimate points when they are made?

]]> By: Jim http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443&cpage=1#comment-1473 Jim Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:18:27 +0000 http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443#comment-1473 >Hey Wolf, > >Just because it was here first doesn’t make it true. I’d say more but am afraid I have to admit I don’t know what >candlemass is. > >Comment by louie — December 9, 2005 @ 11:03 am I'm not sure what's worse - making a blind statement about truth and beliefs - or admitting you are ignorant and unwilling to take 5 minutes to Google to learn about it before making your statement. Jim >Hey Wolf,
>
>Just because it was here first doesn’t make it true. I’d say more but am afraid I have to admit I don’t know what >candlemass is.
>
>Comment by louie — December 9, 2005 @ 11:03 am

I’m not sure what’s worse – making a blind statement about truth and beliefs – or admitting you are ignorant and unwilling to take 5 minutes to Google to learn about it before making your statement.

Jim

]]> By: Kathleen http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443&cpage=1#comment-1440 Kathleen Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:32:32 +0000 http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443#comment-1440 Our church of about 400 will probably be more like 200 on Christmas Day...but we are eagerly anticipating the fun of actually worshipping together on a Sunday Christmas. We meet in a Middle School, and will set up our "sanctuary", a gymnasium, to look like a family gathering area - chairs in a circular shape, rugs, guitars. Maybe it's easier for a smaller church to do this...if so, then I am grateful we are small. Our church of about 400 will probably be more like 200 on Christmas Day…but we are eagerly anticipating the fun of actually worshipping together on a Sunday Christmas. We meet in a Middle School, and will set up our “sanctuary”, a gymnasium, to look like a family gathering area – chairs in a circular shape, rugs, guitars. Maybe it’s easier for a smaller church to do this…if so, then I am grateful we are small.

]]> By: louie http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443&cpage=1#comment-1430 louie Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:33:23 +0000 http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443#comment-1430 Hey Sue, Great - glad your church is worshipping that day - I've heard Saddleback is meeting on Christmas, makes me happy! God bless you and yours! Hey Sue,

Great – glad your church is worshipping that day – I’ve heard Saddleback is meeting on Christmas, makes me happy!

God bless you and yours!

]]> By: sue http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443&cpage=1#comment-1429 sue Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:56:15 +0000 http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443#comment-1429 I belong to a mega church and we will be having a total of 21 services in our four locations. But, my family will be with me that morning and again that afternoon. We will worship, pray and enjoy each others company. The scriptures say "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them" (matthew 18:20) We are not pastors or worship leaders but we will be honoring HIM for whom the season is about. Does this mean that we didn't go to church on Sunday? The scriptures also say "Judge not, that ye be not judged" (Matthew 7:1) I don't think it is about the day, it is about the way: The way we choose to worship The way we live our life that others see The way we love one another like HE loves us I belong to a mega church and we will be having a total of 21 services in our four locations. But, my family will be with me that morning and again that afternoon. We will worship, pray and enjoy each others company. The scriptures say “For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them” (matthew 18:20) We are not pastors or worship leaders but we will be honoring HIM for whom the season is about. Does this mean that we didn’t go to church on Sunday? The scriptures also say “Judge not, that ye be not judged” (Matthew 7:1)

I don’t think it is about the day, it is about the way:
The way we choose to worship
The way we live our life that others see
The way we love one another like HE loves us

]]> By: louie http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443&cpage=1#comment-1424 louie Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:04:05 +0000 http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443#comment-1424 Just call us - Log Eye - sad but oh so true! Just call us – Log Eye – sad but oh so true!

]]> By: Tim L http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443&cpage=1#comment-1423 Tim L Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:42:28 +0000 http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443#comment-1423 I belong to a mega church. I agree with not condemning but I do disagree with not having Christ-mass. Our church is adapting to Christmas by not having daycare except for three and under, and the celebration is only for an hour instead of an hour and a half. For the most part, I believe this discussion (not on this website in particular) makes evangelicals look pretty pathetic. All too easily we forget about that darn log in our eye. I belong to a mega church.

I agree with not condemning but I do disagree with not having Christ-mass.

Our church is adapting to Christmas by not having daycare except for three and under, and the celebration is only for an hour instead of an hour and a half.

For the most part, I believe this discussion (not on this website in particular) makes evangelicals look pretty pathetic. All too easily we forget about that darn log in our eye.

]]> By: louie http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443&cpage=1#comment-1420 louie Mon, 12 Dec 2005 03:44:35 +0000 http://marshianchronicles.com/?p=443#comment-1420 Hi Ryan, Thanks for commenting. I agree with much of what you said, and I hope you noticed that the Scripture I quoted and ones like it are just about the only ones that really apply. We aren't commanded anywhere to celebrate Christmas or even to have church on Sunday. It's all up to us - worship we must but the day is left to us. So I say God bless everyone out there who's doing the best as God gives them the light to do it, if our hearts are open to the Lord, then let's discuss all we want, but not condemn. Why not encourage each other as the day so quickly approaches? Hi Ryan,

Thanks for commenting. I agree with much of what you said, and I hope you noticed that the Scripture I quoted and ones like it are just about the only ones that really apply.

We aren’t commanded anywhere to celebrate Christmas or even to have church on Sunday. It’s all up to us – worship we must but the day is left to us.

So I say God bless everyone out there who’s doing the best as God gives them the light to do it, if our hearts are open to the Lord, then let’s discuss all we want, but not condemn.

Why not encourage each other as the day so quickly approaches?

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